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December 1, 2006 at 3:33 pm

(1) notocensorship says:

Hi Austin:

This is continuing our discussion here. As noted, it’s a Just Crusade to abolish sex change surgeries because they’re evil, just as it’s a Just Crusade to fight against the Aztecs & Incas, due to the fact that the Aztecs & Incas practice human sacrifices.

Getting to the topic of recovered homosexuals, what I meant with regard to homosexuality being proselytized is that groups like PFLAG do push it like a religion. Their meaning of free will is engaging in h&l activities but they’re against preventing/quitting it.

I used to have a neutral view on homosexuality but I believe that the Just Crusade is to prevent homosexual & lesbian activities or help people quit if they’ve started. I don’t care about sexual orientation nor do I care about whether it’s inborn. Sodomy & oral sex are medically harmful.

Lesbians have higher incidence of BV & cervical cancer caused by their sexual activities. Incidentally lesbians have higher incidence of breast cancer (women who don’t have kids are @ higher risk) & ovarian cancer (which may be related to not having kids). Homomen have higher incidence of prostate cancer, along with proctitis & giardiasis caused by their sexual activities. In fact, the safe rule is either straight orthodox sex or no sex. If a man performs sodomy & oral sex on a woman, the same risks will be there.

All sexual activities carry medical risks but some are more harmful than others. Promiscuity makes it more harmful with VD. The ex-gay groups as I understand, aren’t forcing homosexuals to give up their sex lives. What they’re saying is that if they want to change their sex lives to either straight or celibate, then that right must be respected. It’s no different than if recovered smokers were to tell smokers that if they want to quit smoking, then that’s their right.

I don’t know if sexual orientation can change, but that as noted is a moot point. Homosexual, lesbian, sodomy & oral sex are medically bad & we must prevent these sexual behaviors or help people quit if they’ve started, just as we help tobacco users quit using tobacco. In simple words, it’s about preventing these sexual behaviors, EVEN IF the procolivity doesn’t change.

December 1, 2006 at 4:07 pm

(2) Austin Cline says:

This is continuing our discussion here

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Then no one else can follow the discussion, so this will be the last posting for either of us. If you wish to continue, please post in the forum as I’ll be deleting any follow-ups you post in comments here.

As noted, it’s a Just Crusade to abolish sex change surgeries because they’re evil

Please support this claim.

Sodomy & oral sex are medically harmful.

Please support this claim.

Do you want to criminalize the same practices among heterosexuals?

Do you want to criminalize all “medically harmful” activities?

Lesbians have higher incidence of BV $ cervical cancer caused by their sexual activities.

You need to provide evidence for the causal connection.

Incidentally lesbians have higher incidence of breast cancer (women who don’t have kids are @ higher risk) & ovarian cancer (which may be related to not having kids).

And is it your intention to criminalize being childless?

All sexual activities carry medical risks but some are more harmful than others.

Can you prove that the behaviors you wish to criminalize are “more harmful” than others you don’t wish to criminalize?

In fact, the safe rule is either straight orthodox sex or no sex.

Why should this be a legal rule?

The ex-gay groups as I understand, aren’t forcing homosexuals to give up their sex lives.

Irrelevant, they promote false information about sexuality and sexual orientation.

Homosexual, lesbian, sodomy & oral sex are medically bad & we must prevent these sexual behaviors

Do you wish to ban everything that is “medically bad”?

December 4, 2006 at 10:51 am

(3) Maximillian says:

As a Hindu whose parents came from India, your poll wording is dishonest to start with, because you know that in American public schools NEITHER Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc. may give their religious views because of separation of Church&State.

To your poll, sadly the medical & psychological commty. (incl. the AMA) has lost neutrality when it comes to homosexuality. Homos&lesbian groups are hostile to start with against changing sexual activities of gays & lesbians to straight activities. The major discussion of homosexuality revolves around whether there’s an inborn cause, while minor coverage is given to the medical harms of homo & lesbian sexual activities.

It would be a nice change to hear from those who quit gay sex. It would be like hearing from a recovered drug user. Only allowing homosexual groups to speak while prohibiting recovered homosexuals to speak is like only allowing drug addicts to talk & censoring the recovered drug addicts. The pupils can decide if the recovered homosexuals are credible.