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Should Gay Catholics Leave the Church?

Tuesday August 12, 2003
Recent comments made by the Vatican about homosexuality and homosexual relationships have upset many people - but none more so than gays themselves who naturally object when their situation is called immoral, disordered, and evil. Thus there is a question about whether gays have any real future in the Roman Catholic Church.

A recent story that appears on Rainbow Network explains:

Terry Sanderson, a spokesman for the group, said: "It is clear that the Vatican has declared open war on gay people around the world, and it is important that we hit back. The first thing is for all those gay people who have been born Catholic to actively renounce their connections with the Church. The Vatican’s vicious and insulting attack is the last straw. Gay people who have been contributing to the Church with money and resources should stop doing so immediately. They should stop conspiring with their persecutors and instead fight back to ensure the safety and happiness of gay people around the world."

Just what role can gays have in Roman Catholicism? Can they find any respect or love? That may not be very likely in the near future, but does that mean that they should abandon their church or would it be better to work for change from the inside?

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February 25, 2007 at 10:49 pm
(1) John says:

Being gay is not about being german or african. These people need help, they are sick emotionally.

I wish some organizationa would offer help so these hurt people can transform their lives and get the help they deserve. Lets not give up on them, we try to help people with addictions to drugs so lets try to help these lost people too.

July 4, 2008 at 9:37 am
(2) althea says:

John I agree with your comment. The RCC is anti-gay relationships but God says that if you lay with a woman she becomes your wife. They are laying with men so is that not same sex marriage.

Not only the gays need help. God said that we ALL have fallen short of His Glory because of our sin. We ALL need help. The RCC is doing and even worse exactly the same thing that they don’t want others to do..Hippocrites

August 26, 2008 at 4:23 pm
(3) Nadia says:

John and Althea, I pity the ignorance of you two poor, poor, individuals. Your take on homosexuals being “sick emotionally” is clearly cutting-edge psychiatric consensus circa the stone age. I thought society had evolved, and indeed, in many ways it has (i.e. the influence of the RCC becoming more and more obsolete in matters of the state, same-sex marriage becoming increasingly recognized.) but people like you, retaining such ignorance, are truly tragic.

I find the height of irony to be individuals like yourselves, perverted by religion, who seem to so frivolously discard Jesus’s command to refrain from judging others. You use your “holier-than-thou” platform as a means of condemning others - does that strike you as a particularly Christ-like action?

I honestly wish for you to have enlightenment, peace, and truth in your lives. Try to do something you clearly have never attempted before - allow your beliefs to be informed by a sound collection of facts, not the bigoted stance of an archaic institution.

September 13, 2008 at 6:31 am
(4) laurie says:

My belief is that if you are an atheist, you still believe in something, wether it be yourself, or something else. I believe God loves a gay person, as much as the heterosexual who is sinning down the road. What really matters, I believe anyways, is the relationship you have with Jesus, and God; just because you may be gay, that does not deter you in anyway from getting to the point any of us can. I don’t believe gay people who believe in Jesus have anything to worry about, if you are atheist, well, maybe in time you will believe, I hope so, if you don’t, then your choice, however; please take time to look at the world, I mean the life within, and how perfectly it is aligned to sustain life, call it science if you wish, but if it was just science, then not sure love would exist to the extent that it does, common sense says, a design, every insect, ect, has a job… coincidence? not for that, no way lol An athiest believes in something… just feel for a change maybe, but believe what you wish

September 13, 2008 at 8:04 am
(5) Austin Cline says:

My belief is that if you are an atheist, you still believe in something, wether it be yourself, or something else.

Believing something doesn’t make it true, especially when we’re talking about an opinion you have about what’s going on inside the minds of people you don’t know and have never met.

Instead of presuming to tell other people what they are thinking, perhaps it would be better to simply ask them questions? It would certainly be more polite. You’re not going to get positive responses from people if you keep trying to tell them what they “really” believe.

if you are atheist, well, maybe in time you will believe, I hope so, if you don’t, then your choice,

Atheism isn’t a choice.

however; please take time to look at the world, I mean the life within, and how perfectly it is aligned to sustain life, call it science if you wish, but if it was just science, then not sure love would exist to the extent that it does, common sense says, a design, every insect, ect, has a job… coincidence?

Sorry, I don’t see any design or any perfect alignmens. If you’d like to construct an argument demonstrating that anything is designed rather than not, please feel free to do so. You should not, however, merely assert that design exists and expect people to believe without seeing evidence.

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