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One recent and disturbing development in America's Culture Wars is the growth of the so-called Christmas Wars. A few influential conservatives are using Christmas as a political weapon against liberals, secularists, and non-Christians. They claim that a secular, anti-Christian conspiracy is draining Christian meaning from Christmas and devaluing it as part of the holiday season. The hate in their 'defense' of Christmas is astounding - even arguably un-Christian.

 

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November 17, 2006 at 4:10 pm
(1) Ghoststrider says:

I totally agree with this. My gripe about Xtians and Christmas is that, aside from the name itself, Christ has nothing to do with it. It’s about the people that are around you and how they matter, not some dead guy 2000 years ago. And wouldn’t that make it even greater, that we care about each other? But no, it isn’t. Instead, we should all be necrophiles.

And since Xmas was a pagan holiday anyways, I can’t see any Xtian dominance over it. Sorry, you lose, try again. Or do the smart thing, save your losses, and not try again.

December 8, 2007 at 10:52 pm
(2) Zena says:

Uh….I don’t think so. They are just merchants or acting on the behalf of merchants to generate publicity for ‘consumerism’. A Christian who evaluates and studies his religion will eventually find that Jesus’s birthday was NOT on Dec. the 25, and that his birthday was NEVER celebrated with shopping. But those are the real Christians. And those cons can go hang, ’cause the truth is gonna come out. I’m gonna make sure it does. Have a great Sunday!

December 9, 2007 at 2:09 pm
(3) socrates says:

blah, blah, blah….Christmas is exactly what is has always been, a Pagan holiday hi-jacked by the Christian church for their own manipulative purposes, then hi-jacked again by corporate America for their own manipulative purposes. We the people just lie down out of our disinterest or laziness and let the big mouths with the big hats do and say whatever they want and we just take it.

December 10, 2007 at 10:57 pm
(4) janet says:

Hi Austin, I just wanted to thank you for this post. All very well-said. Lots of truth in here. I’m a Christian who enjoys Christmas, but I really don’t like the “wars.” It’s a bunch of foolishness. You were right about so many things in here. Mostly the part where you basically say that if we don’t like how Christmas looks these days, we ought to take a look at ourselves. You’ve challenged me to do just that, sir. I think we need to worry less about our rights and more about loving people. Anyway, and i say this with nothing but sincerity… Happy holidays to you and yours.

December 8, 2008 at 1:46 am
(5) Pujjuut says:

Don’t know if people who post here have seen this. There is a christian fundy working at CNN..

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05/atheists.christmas/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

I cannot find anything pertaining to just the christian religion on the sign and the opening line of the CNN report says, “An atheist sign criticizing Christianity”

December 10, 2008 at 6:46 am
(6) Som Sharma says:

The trouble with god believers is that they are anthropocentric and think only about human species. They do not care about millions of other life forms that exist on this planet. A 15th century Indian poet asked, “ To whom should I be kind and to whom cruel; be it the ant or the elephant, they are all god’s creatures.” A chicken has all biological and physical limbs and organs like us. It has eyes, ears, brain, abdomen, digestive system, sex organs and sex urge etc. It breeds and cares about its offspring like we do. Did god endow them with all complex biology only to be devoured by us? Humans daily slaughter more than a million chickens. After eating these little innocent birds, people sing the praises of a merciful and kind god. Tons of fish, sheep, cows, lovely birds , all were created so man could praise the lord after eating their flesh ?
There are millions of complex species here and yet millions have perished and become extinct. There are lovely insects and flies that live for just 24 hours. Beautiful butterflies may flutter for a while in deep forest before suddenly being gobbled up by a bird or a lizard. Omar Khayyam wondered why “that he who wrought me into shape should stamp me back to common earth again.”
What a grand design this god created!. There is a non-stop battle between the predator and prey. The rule of the game of life is that big fish will eat small fish. But people continue to bend backwards to sing praises of god. It is the fear factor. We do not know what may happen at any moment and so take refuge in an imaginary sanctuary. Even when we see injustice staring in our face we hesitate to criticize god out of fear. I was in Iraq during Saddam’s rule and the scene was very similar. The radio, TV, people in the street were always singing the praises of great Saddam. Or in Stalin’s Russia when people were afraid that if they did not clap well after the dictator’s speech, they would be in trouble.
I say that even if there is a god but is unjust and dictatorial, I am not going to lie back in fear or personal gain. I shall tell him what he is doing is wrong.

December 14, 2008 at 1:34 am
(7) ChuckA says:

^ Som Sharma?…
Very interesting, and compassionate (Buddha-like?), comment, in my opinion…
I think more than a few of us critical thinking atheists have thought along (and through) similar lines. It’s sort of the built-in, baffling, conundrum of ANY predatory planet’s existential considerations.
I’m guessing that Friedrich Nietzsche might have considered similar ideas in reaching his conclusion that “Existence is absurd”…
It’s hard, if not impossible, to even imagine dreaming up a PHYSICAL world system without some kind of existential “sacrificial interdependence”…or systematic, sacrificial slavishness?
Personally, I’m convinced, similar to Buddhists, that…bottom-line…the common (particularly Western, Abrahamic) deducted, ‘theological notion’ of a “Personal Creator God” is an outright absurdity…and further…totally self-contradictory!
Try, I suggest…just as a sort of “creative” exercise…imagining yourself, not with any arrogance, of course (Forgetting you’re just a worthless puny human! ;) )…having infinite, almighty power, trying to choose whether or not to create at all. Then, in particular…what kind of NON-predatory world would (or could) YOU create…
HmmmmMMM?
Remember: That means…creating somewhat independent, viable energy life forms; in a system with…No cruelty, no disease, no killing, no suffering, no eating?…no DEATH?…no SACRIFICING?, Zama-zama. Difficult?….Impossible?
You decide.
Just a thought…of course, there are many more mind-boggling problems in that consideration than I could possibly enumerate.
I’m quite sure Austin could contribute some ideas in that regard; but like Shakespeare’s Falstaff?:
“the better part of valor is discretion”?
:shock:

December 8, 2010 at 6:14 pm
(8) Liz says:
December 8, 2010 at 8:04 pm
(9) IndianaJohn says:

Christ mass? I was told “christ” is the Greek word for “messiah,” and that messiah means “anointed one.” Anointed meaning “rubbed with oil.” Does anyone know if this is correct? Hard to feel reverence toward a “mass for one who was oiled.”

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