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Official Catholic doctrine describes homosexuality as a 'disorder' even though the Catechism also insists that gays 'must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity.' What is the reason for this duality? According to Catholic doctrine, sexual activity only exists for the purpose of procreation, and obviously homosexual activity cannot produce children. Therefore, homosexual acts are contrary to nature and God's wishes and must be a sin.


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October 17, 2007 at 5:29 pm
(1) Eric says:

I find it incredibly annoying how much lower a burden of persuasion our culture assigns to those who would make policy decisions based on theology alone. Social scientists and psychologists have to produce reams of evidence that homosexuality doesn’t hurt anyone or threaten families and that children raised by homosexuals turn out fine, while religious opponents of gay rights can make vague, unsupported allegations that homosexuality causes social harm and be regarded as at least as persuasive.

I think this is a prime example of Stephen Colbert’s idea of truthiness. Opponents of gay rights’ feelings about homosexuality being socially harmful are allowed to substitute for facts in the public discourse.

February 25, 2010 at 7:11 pm
(2) Ron says:

Heil, Mein Herr Ratzinger. welches ist rauf?

February 25, 2010 at 9:51 pm
(3) Ralph Bornemann says:

Austin, homosexuality is still an unnatural practice. Yes, scientifically there are aberations but nature, and yes God, dictate a male/female creation. No matter what you believe in whether God or Allah or simply science, it still takes a man to be a father and a woman to be a mother. And no matter how you slice it, dice it or gene splice it, no stroke of the pen will change that fact. Without condemnation I will continue to pray for you and all atheists and gays that you may someday come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and a realization of the existence of a Creator God who designed and made all that you see in nature and knew you before the creation of the world. Talk to me.

February 25, 2010 at 11:22 pm
(4) ChuckA says:

(3) Ralph Bornemann…?
Sorry, “Ralphie Baby(?)” (NOT!)…
Prayer is total superstition; you’re wasting your apparent, totally delusional time…AND ours. We all know the Fundie Christian “Drill” about your man-dreamed-up, demonstrably insane, mean-spirited, totally IMAGINARY “Creator”. As to the delusional, completely imaginary notion of prayer:
If prayer actually works…why, indeed, hasn’t even ONE major disease EVER magically, and COMPLETELY, disappeared?
Like, f’rnstance…All Cancer?
“God’s will”? What a ridiculously nasty, vindictive…totally imaginary…essentially “Thought Form God” creep!
“National Day of Prayer”?…HA!!!..

RE the subject of this Post…
Message to the…longtime and traditionally “Inquisitional”…current Pope, “Rat-zinger”?…
(Foist: “You dirty rat?”) :shock:
the TRUE “ideology of evil”, as well as, albeit, the most ancient, well established, and easily demonstrated, blatant “archetype” of the “culture of death”, would be Religion, in all its various closetedmanifestations; especially one of the oldest examples of outrageously delusional, “God-based Tyranny”…the Roman Catholic Church.
[And I...now a longtime atheist...was "raised" 'Cat-lick'!]

The Biblical, Leviticus (Leviciouness?) based baloney RE homosexuality is not only delusional and outright insane(?); but Science has demonstrated rather conclusively…through longtime extensive observation of animal Nature…that it exists, rather commonly, in various species…and we all know, historically, that it has long been a part of human Nature.
As to the role of “Biology and sexual orientation”:

Personally (I’m, ummm…”hetero”), any gays I’ve, privately, talked to in my life about their “gayness” have insisted that from the very first dawning of their pubescent sexual awareness, they “knew” they were gay. Which, IMO, leads me to side with genetics being a, common, MAJOR factor. In other words…whatever ‘you’ are…you’re pretty much BORN that way; and we all know that we’re all a rather mysterious, even sometimes strange and baffling, mixture of peculiar, usually very secreted (skeleton closeted?)…sexual variations.
What’s that?…
“No, ChuckA…YOU’RE just a friggin’ weirdo. We’re all poifectly normal!”
(Wink, wink…twitch, twitch!) ;)

February 26, 2010 at 1:28 am
(5) Gerald says:

Ralph Bornemann says: “…Without condemnation I will continue to pray for you and all atheists and gays… Talk to me.”

HA! Why talk to you? What a pompous ass! Believe whatever nonsense you like, but the superstitions of one group shouldn’t be the law for the rest of us.

February 26, 2010 at 3:54 am
(6) Eric (4tunate1) says:

@Ralph Bornemann
“Austin, homosexuality is still an unnatural practice.”

No it isn’t. It occurs naturally in many, many species besides man. If something occurs in nature then it is, by definition, natural.

Not that it matters whether it is natural or not, however. Humans do many things that are unnatural (such as wearing eye glasses or flying planes) which are not wrong. And many things that are quite natural (such as rape or canibalism) are obviously wrong. Whether some thing is natural or not is no indication of whether it is moral.

February 26, 2010 at 6:02 am
(7) Austin Cline says:

Austin, homosexuality is still an unnatural practice.

Prove it.

Yes, scientifically there are aberations but nature, and yes God, dictate a male/female creation.

Prove it.

Without condemnation I will continue to pray for you and all atheists and gays

If you are going to pray for us, would you mind if we think for you?

February 26, 2010 at 6:18 pm
(8) Joseph says:

I’m kind of sick of hearing the reproductive argument when condemning homosexuality. As if every single intimate relationship is for the soul purpose of making babies. Yes, that is how fundies view it, but like most things, what they believe just isn’t based in reality.

So what if gay couples cannot breed? Every time I’ve had sex I’ve worn a condom. Other couples stay together their entire lives without reproducing, either by choice or infertility. Are they “aberrations” to nature, god, and Yog-Sothoth as well?

February 26, 2010 at 7:12 pm
(9) Ol'Froth says:

I had both my dogs spayed, and my cat neutered. I guess they too, are unnatural?

March 5, 2010 at 2:54 pm
(10) chippolus says:

If it happens in nature, its by definition natural, twit. It isn’t normal… until 51% of the population are gay… but then we heteros will not be normal! (I prefer to be less normal and more unique myself, so (shrug) whatever…) You know what ISN’T natural?
Ice cream…
Prayer… (cough)

February 14, 2013 at 2:50 am
(11) Jockaira says:

Ralph Boringmann said: “it still takes a man to be a father and a woman to be a mother”

The roles of father and mother are not exclusively biological and never have been for humans. After birth (reproduction) in most human societies, both the mother and father assume the roles of protector and provider for the human infant until it can make it on its own, a period usually lasting for years and frequently outlasting the desire to be a parent. Many LGBT persons are capable of fulfilling these parental non-biological roles, and if given the chance, can be an excellent help-source for ailing parents. Many Native American societies welcomed third-sex individuals into their communities and benefitted greatly by their participation.

Boringmann’s vision of God’s intent is so limited that one might believe he’s blind.

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