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Many Muslim women have veils imposed on them; other Muslim women wear veils by choice. Why? None of the reasons typically offered for why women in Islam must be covered are credible and the most likely explanations don't make Islam look very good.

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December 14, 2012 at 9:02 am
(1) Cousin Ricky says:

The veil is necessary to protect men from the burden of personal responsibility. (I submit that the veil should be as insulting to men as it is oppressive of women.)

December 14, 2012 at 11:20 pm
(2) Deucalion says:

Well put, Ricky. They also dont want women to have any power over a man, at all. And women wield sexual authority in modern society, Muslims dont want to feel like thier women have any power, at all. It’s pretty sad, really, that once these men were the enlightened ones, looking down upon Christians in the west as barbaric, and not they are the epitome of ignorant facists in most places.

January 1, 2013 at 11:46 am
(3) Barry says:

It’s yet another “logical” extension of the concept of a “higher power”. Obviously their god created women partly in order to tempt men towards the “dark side” as defined by their narrow, skewed interpretation of morality. Therefore women, simply by virtue of existing, should share in the punishment for the actions of men towards them. Christianity has of course a similar attitude towards women as demonstrated by the recent comments made by a multitude of conservative Republicans on the subject of rape. The alternative explanation for veil-wearing (voluntary or otherwise) given by more moderate Islamic elements (namely “modesty”) is just a watered-down version of the same concept. It’s sick from top to bottom though, and anyone who believes it to be a good or even an acceptable “tradition” on any level is either a misogynist or suffering from severe cognitive dissonance.

February 14, 2013 at 12:37 pm
(4) Muslimah says:

The Muslim women wear the veil as a way of showing total obedience to God not to please anyone else and it certainly not to take away the responsibilities of men to conduct themselves in an appropriate manner. I never saw women who are more oppressed than the western women who are seen as sexual objects, waving flags at racing events wearing next to nothing. I am a Muslim woman, who is a university graduate and I, like many Muslim women choose to wear the veil as a spiritual uplift. I think it is about time you learn to allow the Muslim women to speak for themselves because we are more than capable of doing so.

February 14, 2013 at 4:52 pm
(5) Austin Cline says:

The Muslim women wear the veil as a way of showing total obedience to God not to please anyone else

If that were true, then there wouldn’t be such radical differences in traditions about what being “veiled” means. Different cultures and sects do it differently. This proves that it’s cultural, not an absolute command of any gods.

Ergo, it’s done to please humans.

and it certainly not to take away the responsibilities of men to conduct themselves in an appropriate manner.

If that were true, then a lack of covering would not be used to blame women for men behaving badly. I think you know that this happens, so you also know that what you wrote above is false.

I never saw women who are more oppressed than the western women who are seen as sexual objects, waving flags at racing events wearing next to nothing.

As opposed to Muslim women who are regarded as such dangerous sexual objects that they cannot appear in public without being covered. In some places, they are such dangerous sexual objects that they cannot even move in public without being escorted by male relatives.

If you truly regard that as being less “oppressed,” then you suffering from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome. I recommend immediate psychiatric help.

I think it is about time you learn to allow the Muslim women to speak for themselves because we are more than capable of doing so.

Only when Muslim men let you speak and/or don’t give you your words.

Insisting that you can speak for yourself and that you’re free would be more credible if you didn’t insist on remaining anonymous while doing it, as if hidden behind a burkha.

June 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm
(6) Jules mann says:

Talking to ppl like Austin is pointless.

They are consumed by their own existential need to focus their hate on something which they perceive as being totally opposite to them as a way to define and self validate their own perceived superiority over others.

To that end they have created a grotesque caricature in their mind of a Muslim man and of Islam itself. This caricature paints Austin’s views on Islam and only allows information into his head which reinforces (Or feeds) this imaginary hate figure and thus sustains Austin’s sense of superiorty.

The result is an explosion of deliciously addictive self rightious fury which feels so good that Austin begins masturbating to his own “cleverness” as he writes his comment.

And just like any other sex starved loser with a superiority complex he screams his own name out as he orgasms and ignores any sense of understanding or knowledge. For Austin doesnt care what any Muslim says Or does, if it doesnt suit his views it is ignored and explained away. All Muslim women are oppressed by dark skinned bearded men with sharpened knives. If they say their not, there men are forcing them to say so, lf not then they are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, if not they are stupid.

Or so the caricature tells him

June 15, 2013 at 1:32 pm
(7) Elmo says:

in my humble opinion I think the Arab male impose the veil on his women because of his exagerated possessiveness (not sure about the spelling). his women are his, no one else can look at them. in countries where the veil is not inposed by the law, many fightings happen because a male looked “too much” at a female.

June 15, 2013 at 6:46 pm
(8) Marvin says:

Jules mann, it might be profitable for you to come to the awareness that women are people just like you. If it can be said you are representative of attitudes held by Muslim men, perhaps your women do need protection. But I seriously doubt that extreme coverage garb is any real protection from men with such attitudes.

Many argue that the dress restrictions seen in so much of the Islamic world are not supported by the Koran. I haven’t read enough of it to make the argument myself, but the kind of restrictions placed on women’s behavior, even in relatively advanced nations like Saudi Arabia, simply cannot be defended by anything reasonable. The fact that many women accept, even promote them does not justify them in any way. The situation is not far from the Christian gay man who rails against homosexuality . In some cases he sincerely believes it’s a sacrifice he must make to gain salvation, in others he’s merely pandering to the existing power structure. One is self-deluding, the other dishonest, and both are unhealthy and unnatural.

June 16, 2013 at 3:19 pm
(9) Dave Y says:

It should be mentioned that these “Veils have NOTHING to do with Islam, they do have to do with “TRIBAL LAWS” such as Sharia which has been around for 3 thousand years and IS Bedouin Law, NOT Islamic !

this IS the same Nonsense you see in the Penn Dutch religious beliefs and severely fundie Jewish Laws on their women needing to be covered up !
ALL Fundies go back to the Tribal Laws that their religion was supposed to do away with !
There are those that will go to the Later books in the old testament to say it is current, but these have NOTHING to do with the Teachings of Abraham Or Moses, which means they Have NOTHING to do with Judaism!
Stupid people believe and do STUPID things, what a surprise!
When people stop treating the Stupid among them with respect, the stupid will either change the way they think or keep it to themselves!

June 20, 2013 at 8:11 am
(10) Sally says:

Wow, Jules, it sounds like you’ve been indulging in some orgasmic wrestling with the trouser-snake yourself, my lad.

No matter how pretty, no matter how flattering, the islamic veil is a symbol of oppression, a visible sign that women are regarded as not only *different,* but lesser beings than men. The Qu’ran is quite clear on this right at the outset — “Men have authority over women because allah has made the one superior to the other … Surely allah is all-knowing and wise” (Qu’ran, Sura 4, Verse 23).

Why do you think that it is only *women* who wear the veil? Both men and women are enjoined to dress modestly to cover their ‘awrah – nakedness, defect (!!! … my body might be defective, but it is not, per se, a ‘defect’)’ — yet for a muslim man awrah is only waist-to-knee or just the swimsuit region (1), while a muslim woman’s entire body is awrah — even her voice is a form of awrah, according to several ahadith, and “it is not permissible for her to speak in public unless out of necessity.”

And why is this so? Because – as in the other Abrahamic religions – we women are corrupting temptresses against whom men are powerless to control their ‘urges,’ and we must be ‘controlled’ by men “for the good of all.”

So, yes, Jules, the “genuinely religious muslim women” and converts who heed their holy book’s admonition to veil themselves *are* suffering from a form of Stockholm Syndrome – we Marxists call it “false consciousness” but it’s also called “internalizing one’s oppression” – as surely as their christian sisters who “sincerely believe” that “man is the head of woman as christ is the head of the church,” or non-religious women who convince themselves that their abusive husband “loves them.”

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(1) In the Alice-in-Wonderland world inhabited by theologians of all religions, there is actually an argument that since Muhammad uncovered his thigh while riding a camel, men are at perfect liberty to go about in a thong or even naked.

June 20, 2013 at 8:34 am
(11) Sally says:

Seriously, the extent to which muslim women have *voluntarily* taken to the veil is vastly overestimated.

There are some who claim that they feel liberated by being veiled, protected from being perceived and judged as physical objects (Stupid, IMO – the solution is not to ‘protect’ women by covering them up but by teaching them to be as strong and self-confident as their male peers). Some wear the veil out of cultural or political pride (e.g., solidarity with the Palestinians or with the Iranians who “stood up to the West” in 1979).

But the majority of muslim women who wear hijab do not choose to do so — they are pressured into it by their families, who present it to them from the time that they are very young as an inevitability for when they reach puberty, because this is what “good muslim women” wear. They are policed in terms of how ‘properly’ they are dressed by fathers, brothers, uncles and cousins and by other members of the community (and in some countries by ‘morality police’).

June 20, 2013 at 8:35 am
(12) Sally says:

Moreover, while there are men everywhere who believe that they have a right to force their will on women, the rise of islamic fundamentalism means that there are now muslim men who will read “O Prophet! Tell … the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) … that they should be known as such and not molested (Sura 33, Verse 59)” and claim they have a right to coerce women into ‘proper muslim behaviour,’ including wearing hijab, by violence if necessary (We intimidated Muslim women until they wore the hijab and we thought we were invincible. http://www.news.com.au/national-news/i-was-a-radical-islamist-who-hated-all-of-you/story-fncynjr2-1226652515525).

The threat of being beaten, raped or even murdered for going uncovered is an increasingly realistic threat in many places and it absolutely counts as coercion.

Most people would rather not admit that they are coerced, especially not to outsiders who may look down at them as a result. The psychological role of such coercion tends to be underplayed when discussing hijab with non-muslims, and is thus vastly underestimated by ‘outsiders.’

July 2, 2013 at 4:06 pm
(13) Jeanne says:

Austin: Why to people like Jules accuse people like you of being hateful? I have been following you for a long time and have never read anything hateful posted by you. Could one reason be their inability to present a rational response, so the only alternative is to change the subject entirely and put you on the defensive? Disagreement is not hatred.

Jules offers no positive feedback and seems to believe that leveling insults will prove his point when actually, it makes him look childish and silly..

July 2, 2013 at 10:40 pm
(14) Cliff Willard says:

I think it’s time for Muslim men to wear the Burqa the same as their womenfolk. That way, they show complete obedience to Allah and they don’t tempt women by exposing their bodies.
That’s only fair, isn’t it?

February 6, 2014 at 12:56 am
(15) jody J says:

all yall are mis informed but it’s not yall fault it’s because of the lies and cover ups first of all muslims follow the bible. the old testament is exactly the same verse for verse as the quaran and wearing veils is actaully a christian things if you read genesis where it talks about angels guarding the people then started raping the women so the veil was worn to keep from enticing the gods if you remember the bible talked about giants roming the land these so called giants came from the women getting raped by the angels….FACTS

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