Comment of the Week: Christian or Judeo-Christian?
The United States of America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. We celebrate holidays that are Judeo-Christian, and predominantly Christian. If anyone is opposed to that, he or she is free to leave our country and go to a country that more adequately conforms to their beliefs and practices.
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Usually it is claimed that America is founded just on Christian principles and not many try to argue that there is anything Jewish about the legal or philosophical principles upon which the government of the United States is based. This is one area there really isn't an effort to make things ecumenical — I guess Christians who try to claim this aren't interested in sharing the credit? Regardless, there is no more basis for saying that America is founded on "Judeo-Christian principles" than saying that it is simply founded on "Christian principles."
More interesting, in my opinion, is the attempt to say that America celebrates "Judeo-Christian" holidays. I've never seen that before. There's obviously nothing Jewish about secular holidays like Independence Day or Memorial Day, but even traditionally religious holidays like Easter and Christmas aren't in any way Jewish. At least Cheryl had enough self-awareness to admit that the holidays are predominantly Christian, but I still have to see this as an example of serious overreach when it comes to denying the exclusively Christian character of traditional religious practices in America.
It's not a coincidence that this comment was made in response to an article about problems with fitting in some sort of recognition of Ramadan holidays in public schools. American schools almost always make allowances for Christian holidays and usually do the same for Jewish holidays, but giving Muslims equal treatment is giving some Christians fits. They don't want to treat Muslims as fully equal, but they also don’t' have any legal or moral basis for not doing so.
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>The United States of America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. We celebrate holidays that are Judeo-Christian, and predominantly Christian.
I do get what you’re saying in response to this comment about the schools offering recognition of things ilke Hannukah; however, as a nation, we don’t shut down for Hannukah like we do for Christmas. I’m sitting here now straining my brain trying to think of any Jewish holidays that we celebrate as “the USA”? Are there _any_?
It’s somewhat funny to see a Xian taking issue with Islam, seeing as how the Xians hijacked the original Abrahamic Hebrew religion and freely deviated it into an entirely new religion (but claiming the Abrahmic roots). The Muslims then deviated it once more into an entirely new religion (but claiming the Abrahamic roots). And the Christians are up in arms.
It seems Xians who have issues with Islam are a bit put off by the taste of their own medicine.
Most of the people who talk about Judeo-Christian tradition are sorcerers who believe only in the power of magic and crookery. The best of the tradition has always been interested in righteousness and doing the moral thing. They have been careful to avoid being blockheads or phonies.
John Hanks, I used to be amazed (not in a good way) at your odd ramblings… now I am bored… either find something to add to the discussion or leave it alone…
In recent discussions with some Christians… (they only discuss things with me when they are ib groups… they also jump into the discussion from all sides… then insist I don’t listen to them)… I was trying to pin them down as to what part of the bible they believed… they started with “ALL OF IT”… but as we dissected it, they gradually moved away from the OT & directed all their discussions from purported “WORDS OF JESUS”… or at least what they thought he meant…
.. when asked what role the OT played in their religion, they (of course) mentioned the 10 suggestions… oops, sorry, commandments… but when faced with discrepancies & other “laws”, they went to the fall-back position of the 2 commandments Jesus paraphrased…
… seems, the Judeo portion of their religion is only trotted out when it benefits their position…
… sort of like how they consolidate Baptist, Petecostals, Mormons, JWs, Catholics, etc, etc. whne they need a majority “Christian” opinion…
Did you know that our 3 branch government steams from the book of Isaiah? Which is the Judeo part when we say Judeo Christian.
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
He will save us.”
Did you also know THE STATE BECOMES THE CHURCH: JEFFERSON AND MADISON (source Library of Congress @ http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2.html
I suggest you spend some time there you see those little pictures/thumbnails click on them and you can read documents written in our founders own hand. Those documents say we are founded upon Judeo Christian principals and anyone whom disputes that fact, is disputing Historical facts to fill an agenda.
Moreover, if America wasn’t founded upon Judeo Christian Principals the facts wouldn’t say we were. I am always amazed at how some educated people try to change the facts to fit their beliefs rather than their beliefs to fit the facts.
Prove it.
Where, exactly? Provide the specific quotes where anyone wrote that.
Feel free to provide some facts that support your claim.
I’m always amazed at how just about all Christians who post comments here think it’s acceptable or appropriate to make claims and accusations without even trying to provide evidence or arguments to support what they are saying.