Joy Stephenson: Don't Dare Wish Me a Happy Holidays!
Such Christians don't want to be wished well for the holidays; all they are interested in is having their religious beliefs and customs reaffirmed by strangers and businesses. I think that a person would have to be very insecure in their beliefs and religion for them to need others to remind them about their own holiday in that manner. Why else would anyone need a stranger or a for-profit business to reinforce the fact that they happen to be celebrating Christmas?
Joy Stephenson complains about how Christmas is losing some of its special status during the holiday season:
In recent years, decorating the home for Christmas holidays has become a national pastime. Many families spend hundreds of dollars and hundreds more hours making their homes remind their neighbors and passers-by that they celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ and are not in the least ashamed of that fact. Will this ultimately be outlawed?
Source: Navasota Examiner
I find it very illuminating that Joy Stephenson sees the purpose in spending hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours on decorations is to "remind their neighbors and passers-by [i.e., complete strangers] that they celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ." Why would Christians feel a need to do that? Why would they need to shout out "Hey, look at me, I celebrate Christmas"? Why wouldn't Christians want to mark the birth of Jesus by spending money and time helping the poor rather than displaying kitsch made in Chinese sweat shops?
Then again, maybe not all Christians are like Stephenons says — I suppose some may be, but perhaps she's just projecting her own fears and insecurities onto others. Maybe she needs to spend money and time every year to remind everyone what she celebrates, but surely not all Christians do. These personal insecurities are surely a major reason for Stephenon's paranoid delusion that anyone would try to outlaw private holiday decorations.
Joe Stephenson is clearly worried about secularists banning decorations, but the only actual threat to Christmas in America has only ever come from Christians themselves. Some denominations don't celebrate Christmas at all, regarding it as little more than a dressed-up pagan holiday. In fact, Christmas was banned in some areas. The Scottish Presbyterian Church banned it in 1583 in England and James I had to reinstitute it by force of arms.
In America, the Massachusetts Bay Colony legally prohibited the celebration of Christmas for a long time and other Protestant-dominated areas generally frowned upon it. Sometimes, Christmas was dangerous: in 1706, a mob of Puritans surrounded an Anglican church in Boston hurling stones and shouting threats at the people inside who dared to celebrate the Nativity. Puritan mobs in England were also known to attack people celebrating Christmas.
In their book The Making of the Modern Christmas, J.M. Golby and A.W. Purdue examined the December issues of The Times from 1790 to 1835. Would you believe that in twenty of those forty-five years, they found no mention of Christmas? And when Christmas was mentioned, it received only the scantest of attention — nobody really cared.
Even into the late 1800's, Christmas was not a generally popular holiday, nor was it an officially recognized state holiday. It wasn't such an odd thing that Scrooge might require poor Cratchit to work on Christmas day — even the US Congress seems to have met on some Christmas days in the nineteenth century. The Christmas which Joy Stephenson seems to want to preserve is not a traditional Christian celebration but instead a relatively modern commercial one — and she doesn't even seem to know it. I wonder if she cares? I have my doubts because I question her commitment to truth and reality:
We learned a while back that any reference to Christianity is prohibited on public property. There can be no nativity scenes, no star in the east on the courthouse lawn, no shepherds, no Magi. Don't even try to put one near the city hall or on any government plot of ground. Currently, such displays can be had on your own lawn but don't count on that trend continuing.
What Joy Stephenson says here is completely false. She never "learned" that any and all references to Christianity are prohibited on public property. She might have been told this by someone who knew better or didn't care themselves, but Stephenson apparently never cared enough to research a little to learn the truth. In reality, all that's prohibited is for the government to sponsor, support, or promote religious displays and messages on public property.
Even then, religious images are still permitted so long as they are part of a larger secular display. Moreover, private religious displays are usually allowed — the government can't endorse them, but private individuals or groups can erect something like a nativity scene for the duration of the Christmas season. I have a lot of trouble believing that Joy Stephen is ignorant of all this, but completely and utterly ignorant she must be if we aren't to conclude that she is lying through her teeth.
There is little to be done about all this except take individual action. We could refuse to say “Happy Holidays” and insist on “Merry Christmas”. We could not trade with merchants who refuse to recognize the reason there is a celebration which allows them to make a lot of money each year. We could choose not to buy items which denigrate the holiday or the Christian religion. We could refuse to see the movies which make fun of our beliefs or which portray Christians as simple fools who believe in fairy tales.
Let's take a closer look at Joy Stephenson's recommendations. Christians who dislike the general "Happy Holidays" greeting and prefer the specific "Merry Christmas" greeting should refuse to address anyone in anything but the specific "Christmas" greeting — regardless of what they might celebrate. In other words, rather than "do unto others as you would have them do unto you," Stephenson wants Christians to behave in an even worse manner than what they are complaining about.
Joy Stephenson also claims that retailers who try to acknowledge the existence of multiple holidays this time of year are "denigrating" Christmas and Christians. Yes, that's right, Christians are being "denigrated" when they aren't singled out for special attention. Anyone who dares to treat non-Christians like Christians is "denigrating" people. Somehow, I suspect that exactly this attitude was behind the recent attack on Jews by Christians in New York — why else would the attack have occurred unless insecure Christians believed they were being "denigrated" because some stranger failed to say "Merry Christmas"?
At the very least, we can greet each other with “Merry Christmas” and refuse to acknowledge “Happy Holidays”. Should we meet on the street, don't you dare say “Happy Holidays” to me. Say “Merry Christmas” or silently walk on by.
So, unless you are prepared to reinforce Joy Stephenson's religious beliefs, she'd prefer that you not acknowledge her at all; if you do have the temerity to greet her improperly, she won't deign to even acknowledge your existence. That's sure a good demonstration of Christian love and grace, isn't it? I know that not all Christians are like Stephenson, but a growing number are: people who willing or even eager to demosnstrate their own inhumanity by throwing a temper tantrum whenever they or their ideology isn't specially privileged.



I just posted to an e-list to note:
1. The Jew who was beaten on the subway for saying “Happy Hannukah” when someone else shouted “Merry Xmas.”
2. The CT Valley atheists, who had a permit from the city to post a solstice sign had their display blocked by the city from public view after it went up and people complained.
3. In Madison, WI, they had a nativity and a Wiccan display on government property. Someone got a ladder to access the Wiccan display specifically, then vandalized it and left it in nearby hedges.
Since when did respecting the beliefs of everyone become disrespecting Xianity? Seriously, if Xianity is going to become the belief that can only exist if everyone else and every other belief is disrespected…that’s progressing toward a serious problem.
Vandalism, assault, and government censorship simply because Xians don’t feel like they need to share with or respect others–and that’s just during this 2007 holiday season. Just how much farther are Xians going to take this “War on Everyone Else”?
I have been told at least a dozen times since yesterday (and twice already this morning), “Merry Xmas.” And that’s not a problem for me. So, why should someone have sh*t if I say “Happy Holidays”? If I try to be respectful of everyone–that’s anti-Xian? If that’s true, I actually am going to have some issues with Xians in the coming years, because this is not acceptable in a diverse society. People can believe, feel, even say what they want. But I shouldn’t be slugged or have my property vandalized, or have my message silenced–just because Xians disagree with me. I draw the line at censorship and lawlessness. Nobody should have to tolerate that.
For a person to express how disrespected they feel when they hear Happy Holidays, should mean they understand that others might feel disrespected if she says “Merry Xmas.” But I guess it only matters if Xianity is “disrespected” with a greeting intended to be inclusive. I guess it doesn’t matter if Xians go around offending everyone and anyone who is not a Xian. (Or not a Xian who practices Xmas–as some do not.)
The hypocrisy and irony of it all is actually surreal to me.
Correction: I guess the wiccan display was vandalized in Green Bay. I read it in a Madison headline. Sorry!
I think what we’re seeing is a reversion, by at least some Christians, to the spirit of the Crusades and the pogroms. I.e., Christianity not as a belief that all humankind should be united in a spirit of love, but as an exclusive spirit of one group who feel that everyone in the out-group is their enemy.
I don’t see either one as “the true essence of Christianity” — Christianity is as Christians do, just as the nature of any group is shown by what its members say and do. So Christians are a very large and diverse group, including many kinds of people. Just like atheists, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and whatever.
Let’s just hope that this type of Christian doesn’t become any more prevalent. Happy Holidays, all!
For me, it depends on the intent of the person saying the holiday greeting. If it is simply the standard dimwit god worshipper I will answer politely that I do not celebrate Christmas (or a holiday if its “Happy Holidays”) but I hope they have a Happy Christmas or holiday. If they are a vicious religionist trying to shove it down my throat, I give it to them both barrels and tell them off.
About the “essence of xianity”:
I think there is no such thing. Xians fight over what it is every chance they get.
To address the larger topic:
Why should we be surprised that those who hold irrational beliefs also behave irrationally?
One day they’ll figure out that the ones turning their holiday ugly, contentious, and tedious are *them*. What a whiny, mean-spirited, foolish rant. It’s like yelling at a waitress who dares ask if you would like a “soft drink” rather than a Coke, and asserting your Coke supremacy and your right not to have to hear about Sprite or Fanta. Only because this is about religion, it’s “news” and worthy of attention. *sigh*
I hope she wears a cross. I only say “Merry Christmas” if I see one.
Soon this foolishness will be over and we’ll have other types to discuss.
Merry freaking Christmas Joy Stephenson!
Chad,
Who was protesting Christmas? And why should anyone protest Easter? Celebrate anything you want. Given an invitation, I will celebrate any holiday and I have. Everything from the slaying of the buffalo demon by the goddess Durga to the birth of the Buddha to a tea ceremony to Id. Like Tracie, especially if it includes food and entertainment. Getting several degrees in the Study of Religion can get you invited to great celebrations.
“Therefore God has highly exalted Him and bestowed on Him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father (Phil. 2:9-11). Merry Christmas to all
From Chapter 112 of the Koran, regarding Allah:
“In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Muhammad) He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone.”
I read JesusFreak’s post, and I read this. There appears to be some sort of impass.
Very good point tracieh. Jesus Freak believes there is some sort of magical power in his/her scripture quoting. I know because I used to be a Christian. He/she fails to realize that those who have done an unbiased study of how the Bible came to be, know that it holds no more power than any other supposed holy book. Jesus Freak-give it up. You are wasting your time and looking a bit foolish. Oh, and have a Great Festive Season.
How about “May the Force Be With You”. If they won’t let you put a symbol on a courthouse lawn, put a symbol on the top of your car. (More people will notice it anyway)
I am atheist and I like Christmas – a lot! What’s not to like? Santa and gifts (secular), decorated trees, wreaths and yule logs (pagan), good food, good drinks, good friends (you need religion for this)?
Last year I was honored to be invited to a formal Passover celebration. The six people in attendance consisted of three ultra secular Jews, one Catholic, one atheist, and one agnostic (though I suspect my husband is in the process of jettisoning the remnants of his agnosticism. I’m with you, Pearl, any good excuse to celebrate! Happy Holidays, all, and what the heck, Merry Christmas to anybody who cares!