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Christian Terrorists Leave IED Outside Abortion Clinic

By April 27, 2007

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There are always new reports about Muslims using IEDs to terrorize and kill Americans in Iraq, but now we could have a case of Christian terrorists using IEDs to terrorize and try to kill Americans in Texas — at an abortion clinic, to be specific. Law enforcement is treating the matter seriously, which is good, but I wonder if those who regularly complain about Muslim extremism and terrorism will treat this incident in a similar manner, or if they will start making excuses that they never accept on behalf of Muslims.
The device, discovered Wednesday, prompted an evacuation of the surrounding south Austin neighborhood and a brief shut down of Interstate 35. A team of local and federal police agencies, working under the Joint Terrorism Task Force, is investigating the incident.

“The device that we examined was in fact an explosive device. It was also configured in such a way as to cause serious bodily injury or death,’’ said Assistant Chief David Carter of the Austin Police Department. “I want to stress that it was a dangerous device.’’

The device, left in what authorities compared to a duffle bag, was found in the parking lot of the Austin Women’s Health Center, which provides abortion services. The city bomb squad remotely destroyed the device with a robot, officials said.

Source: Star-Telegram

This is just about the extent of reporting that has been done on the story. Had an unmarked bomb been found outside a government building, every news organization would be doing wall-to-wall coverage of the suspected Al Qaeda terrorists. Granted, there's probably not much more information than what has been released, so on just about any other topic the amount currently being reported would seem reasonable. That wouldn't stop our Liberal Media if Muslim terrorists were the issue, though. They would have bloviating pundits giving their malformed opinions every ten minutes, just to keep up ratings.

Let Christian terrorists try to initiate an attack in the pursuit of their quest to exercise dominion and religious fascism over America, though, and no one cares. They can't even be bothered to yawn because Christian attacks on women, abortion, science, critics, and so forth just aren't "news." If such events were publicized, people might start to develop a negative impression of Christianity and we just can't have that, can we?

Fox News originally reported that, according to a federal source, the attempted bombing was "not a big deal." That wording has since been changed to remove the quote. Now they report:

The device, found in a duffle bag Wednesday, "was configured in such a way to cause serious bodily injury or death," said David Carter, assistant chief of the Austin Police Department.

The bomb, which was found in the parking lot of the Austin Women's Health Center, comes on the heels of last week's U.S. Supreme Court ruling which banned a controversial type of abortion and was viewed as an anti-abortion victory. ...

In the last 30 years, abortion clinics have been bombed 41 times according to law enforcement statistics compiled by the National Abortion Federation. Many of the crimes directed at abortion providers, including 93 attempted bombings and arson, were committed during times that abortion issues were prominent in the news, Saporta said.

"Last week we put out an update to our members ... we reminded them that when abortion is featured prominently in the news we often see an increase in violence aimed at clinics and encouraged them to take increased security precautions," [Vicki Saporta, president of the National Abortion Federation] said.
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Here we have an actual case of a bomb planted on American soil — not a bomb plot, but an actual bomb. If conservative evangelical Christians are consistent, shouldn't they treat this the same as they would have theoretical bombing plots treated? Shouldn't they call for the government to infiltrate and spy on pro-life churches, just as they have supported the infiltration and spying on mosques? Shoudln't they favor the arrest and detention of suspects as "enemy combatants"? Shouldn't they support the use of "alternative" interrogation techniques — including torture — in order to learn the identities of all invovled? How many conservative evangelicals will volunteer for water boarding in name of the War on Terror?

Or do you suppose that conservative evangelical Christians who support such measures against Muslims suspected of terrorist ties only support them in cases where Muslims are involved and never in cases where Christians may be involved? These same conservative Christians set themselves up as arbiters of law and morality in America, condemning all who don't toe the line when it comes to believing in and obeying their god. At the same time, though, they support the use of illegal and immoral tactics to promote their religion or defend America.

In fact, some conservative, evangelical Christians openly support terrorist violence. Wiley Drake, currently the second vice-president of the Southern Baptist Convention, signed a declaration supporting James Kopp, the Christian terrorist who assassinated a New York doctor for performing abortions:

The declaration signed by Wiley Drake, elected last June as second vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention, appears on the Army of God Web site. The National Abortion Federation describes the Army of God as an "underground network of domestic terrorists who believe that the use of violence is appropriate and acceptable as a means to end abortion."

The Army of God Web site describes Paul Hill, a Presbyterian minister executed in 2003 for the 1994 killing of a doctor and bodyguard outside an abortion clinic in Pensacola, Fla., as "an American hero." ...A note on the declaration of support for Kopp suggests: "I would advise, if you contemplate ever taking action against babykilling abortionists or their houses of murder, e.g. abortion mills; you DO NOT SIGN THIS, NOR MAKE YOURSELF OR YOUR PLANS KNOW IN ANY MANNER WHATSOEVER TO ANYONE AT ANY TIME."

The declaration bearing his name says: "We, the signers of this declaration, proclaim that we support and stand for righteousness in the defense of the unborn.... We will stand with our brother Jim Kopp. We will support him for his love of unborn children." It ends with a reference to "those who have made the ultimate sacrifice" in defending unborn children.

Source: Ethics Daily

Although this particular terrorist act was obviously aimed at abortion, it's a problem that should be recognized as affecting us all — or at least all of us who oppose the agenda of Christian Nationalists. Once any group falls into the mindset that it's appropriate to pursue a political agenda through violence and murder, it's difficult to expect them to cease such activity at the boundaries of just a single issue. This is, in fact, why it's wrong to think that violence is little more than a short-cut to the same goals that might otherwise be pursued through nonviolent, political means. The use of violence isn't just a different method, but in reality can change the nature of the destination as well.

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April 28, 2007 at 12:09 am
(1) ChuckA says:

Somewhat tangentially…[My apology to Austin, in advance, for a rather long comment.]
Every time I hear the extremist Fundies weeping, wailing, and frothing at the mouth about the abortion issue; I’m reminded of one statistic (there are others) on the most common…or “natural”…abortion: approximately 1 in 5 pregnancies ends in MISCARRIAGE. No one ever makes the slightest ‘peep’ about that issue; and almost every family has had that happen, at least once in their reproductive history. I know my family was effected.
We all know, of course, that THOSE abortions…for any true believer…are “God’s” abortive choices…and “He” can do whatever serves “His” unfathomable “Plan”.
Now that, for one example, the Catholic Church has decided there’s no more “Limbo”…those aborted, Tabula Rasa [blank slate], ‘souls’ go directly to Jeebus…without even having to pay any earthly dues…?
[What!...We should ALL have been so lucky?]

I suggest to anyone interested, reading this tract from ffrf [Freedom From Religion Foundation] I think it’s worth having in your ‘Favs’, in ready for ‘sharing’ with your “kind, compassionate, and of course, lovable”, Fundie friends:
http://ffrf.org/nontracts/abortion.php

So, actually, the “Sky-Daddy” of religions is the undisputed Cosmic Champ regarding abortion; which leads logically (according to THIS atheist’s lights) to the notion that the earthly, “Houses of the Lawd” would be the MOST proper targets for the wrath of those fanatics toting anti-abortion bomb devices…If you follow my drift.
[I'm kidding, of course...aren't I?]

A reminder to my Skeptical cohorts…Religions are for the most part, irrational fictions based on the writings of demonstrably irrational and illogical minds.
[Python's "Life of Brian", anyone?]
The probable Schizophrenic ‘prophets’ knew absolutely nothing of logic, Philosophy…even reading and writing, for that matter…Just review the Garden of Eden ‘myth’, for starters!…Duh!
To expect any sane rationality to emerge from those “wild & crazy”, perhaps…desert-heat baked, possibly drugged…or just, simply…brain fried authors…two, or three thousand years later…
is something akin to “peeing directly into the wind…with out wearing a raincoat”!…?
[Guys only, of course!...OK...
maybe extremist, 'far-out' gals?] ;)

April 28, 2007 at 5:38 pm
(2) Ron says:

ChuckA: I suspect that you underestimate the clergy of biblical times. My read of the bible is that they knew all about how to manipulate the minds of the ignorant uneducated. When Moses was up there with the “God in the volcano” I think he was hammering out those stone tablets all by himself!

April 28, 2007 at 7:42 pm
(3) Elaygee says:

Schmattas on their heads,”special underwear” or white collars around their necks, they’re all the same; organized crime mob in religious clothing

April 29, 2007 at 3:33 am
(4) Patrick Quigley says:

In the last 30 years, abortion clinics have been bombed 41 times according to law enforcement statistics compiled by the National Abortion Federation.

I had no idea that this was so common. I can only imagine the outrage if 41 churches, or schools, or grocery stores had been bombed this frequently.

May 6, 2007 at 7:41 am
(5) God Isn't says:

I guess we can expect more of this since the Supremes have based their ban of late-term abortion not on the U.S. Constitution but on their religious beliefs. I think we should fire any of our employees who violate their employment contract, which is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.

October 11, 2007 at 6:10 pm
(6) Larry Carter Center says:

Austin Texas is a place where a Travis County judge can put a convicted murderer on probation for stealing nearly 60 thousand dollars from Atheists & let him run free after he promised to kill Atheist leaders. Had the bomb exploded in Austin at the birth control clinic, the story would still be minimized by the pro-xian dishonest news media. Baptists are far & wide biblioterrorists. These delusional fanatics do not repudiate their hell threats nor apologize for their heaven bribes to call all for being with their alleged deity/ies Jehovah / Jeebus & Ghost Holes. Women are not mandatory brood stock nor chattels of the Vatican/Baptist cabals. It is time for all Atheists to fight theocracy & confront dishonest “reporters” who will not report religious violence & terrorists for zygotes.

November 28, 2007 at 3:14 pm
(7) John Scott says:
November 29, 2007 at 6:59 am
(8) Austin Cline says:

Not Christians.

I’m sorry, but where does any report say that Evans isn’t a Christian?

November 29, 2007 at 7:33 am
(9) John Scott says:

I’m sorry, but where does any report say that Evans isn’t a Christian?

Do your homework, pal. I ain’t going to do it for you. The fact that he was known to be pro-choice by his friends should tell you something.

Christian Terrorists Leave IED Outside Abortion Clinic

Source?

Where is your source? And no, you did not say “likely”
The word “likely” doesn’t appear on the page.

November 29, 2007 at 7:46 am
(10) Austin Cline says:

Do your homework, pal. I ain’t going to do it for you.

If you don’t take your claims seriously enough to provide a reference and citation, I don’t care enough about it to spend any more time on it.

And no, you did not say “likely” The word “likely” doesn’t appear on the page.

True, but most speakers of English would agree that “now we could have a case of Christian terrorists using IEDs” expresses the aforementioned sentiment. If anything, “could have” is less strong than “likely.” Since you appear to be determined the see the worst in everything I write, though, it would probably be expecting too much for you to notice.

November 22, 2008 at 3:26 pm
(11) Jamie says:

1) You are entitled to not believe. God gave us free-will so we would have that choice. No where in the New Testament (and I suspect the Old), are we told to persecute or kill anyone because they don’t believe. Nor are we instructed to use violence against those who disagree with us on more tangible matters, such as abortion. In fact, we are told to treat those who disagree and even persecute us with kindness. (Matthew 5)

2) Violence needs an excuse. Violent people will use anything to justify their actions. The problem is that a majority of the time, they (and the people who agree with them) do not really understand what they are using to justify their violence. If they did, there would be no such label as “Christian violence”. I’m sure most other religions would also be left out of such dubious activities. Religion is very often hijacked for violence.

3) Jesus is a feminist. Yes, that is right. During His walk on earth, He taught women when women were treated as if they were unworthy and incapable of learning anything past cooking, cleaning, and reproduction (Martha/Mary story, Luke 10). He clearly attacked the practice of men divorcing their wives just because they got tired of the pairing. Women had no recourse for divorce and no secure way of providing for themselves at that time (Matthew 19). He is against racism. He spoke to a woman who was treated as a “half-breed” instead of a human being who happened to have parents of two different races (Woman at the well, John 4). This is at a time and in a culture when for a man to allow a woman to daw his water meant that he was her close relative, husband, or engaged to her. Socially, she was at the bottom of the totem-pole. She was a “half-breed” and a “slut”. Jesus saw past the labels and spoke to her as an equal. Christians do the same.

Before you go off on a tangent with the whole “submission” thing…yes, we are told to be in submission to our husbands, but they are told to love us as they love themselves (Ephesians 5). In practice, that means they will listen to what we think and want, and give our desires deep thought and consideration. It also means that if there is an impasse between a couple as to say, whether to invest in this stock or that one, the husband gets the final word. It is a functional protocol. This basic principle is how the government and military structures work. If we just debate forever, nothing will be done. However, if one branch of government or one military leader does what they want with no regard for others, things will quickly fall to shambles. It is the same in the home.

(I recommend “The Message” translation of the Bible for a quick read. Biblegateway.com has it online. Other versions are better for study, but this one is great for getting the general idea. It’s written in a more contemporary, less complicated structure.)

4) More Christians have been killed by athiest (communist/socialist) governments in the beginnning of the 20th century than people have been killed over the last two thousand years by people claiming to act in the name of the Christian God (Politically Incorrect Guide to the Bible by Robert J. Hutchinson). The number of people killed during the 500 years of the Inquisition was roughly equivalent to the number of people killed during our first two years in this current war…that does not include the people who died on 9/11 (http://askville.amazon.com/people-killed-Inquisition/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3878676). By contrast, a current estimate states that about 171,000 a year are martyred for their practice of the Christian faith(http://christianity.about.com/od/denominations/p/christiantoday.htm). For comparison: since the war began, less than 4,500 of our troops have died in combat (http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/).

December 2, 2008 at 12:02 am
(12) chris says:

Typical Jewish trash talk. I feel sorrow for you.

September 12, 2010 at 5:59 pm
(13) hhernandez says:

typical athiest garbage. one semester of philogophy and religion and suddenly you have a right to put down something you don’t agree with cos it threatens your own belief or sexual preferance. your article was stupid and transparantly had another agenda other protecting anyone from ‘christian terrorism’. may god have mercy on you.

September 13, 2010 at 7:18 am
(14) Austin Cline says:

typical athiest garbage.

Can you show how?

one semester of philogophy and religion and suddenly you have a right to put down something you don’t agree with cos it threatens your own belief or sexual preferance.

So, is criticism of religion never legitimate?

your article was stupid and transparantly had another agenda other protecting anyone from ‘christian terrorism’.

Yet you don’t seem able to identify any errors or problems with it.

may god have mercy on you.

Which god? Apollo? Odin?

July 17, 2012 at 11:52 am
(15) Joseph says:

I would not be saddened by their passing if they support the killing of innocent children. It is wrong under any religion, any non religion, any train of thought. I cannot imagine supporting this action in any way. If it is so great why is it companies try to hide their support of planned parenthood? planned parenthood what an oxymoron?

July 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm
(16) Joseph says:

The reason this is so supported is because the government, as powerful as they feel they are, is not allowed to make a rule that goes against an Americans rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Abortion does all 3 so the law is not constitutional. If the authorities do not stand up for the rights of Americans we the people must do it for ourselves.

July 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm
(17) Austin Cline says:

I would not be saddened by their passing if they support the killing of innocent children. It is wrong under any religion, any non religion, any train of thought.

Whereas forced pregnancy is OK under your religion?

planned parenthood what an oxymoron?

You appear to be ignorant of some basic facts of reality – like that Planned Parenthood does a lot more than abortions.

The reason this is so supported is because the government, as powerful as they feel they are, is not allowed to make a rule that goes against an Americans rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Abortion does all 3 so the law is not constitutional.

1. If they aren’t born, they aren’t Americans.

2. Even if a fetus had a right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, that right doesn’t come with a right to achieve any of it by using the body and organs of an unwilling person.

If the authorities do not stand up for the rights of Americans we the people must do it for ourselves.

So, you support Christian Terrorism?

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