Conservative and evangelical Christians in America seem obsessed with homosexuality. They are convinced that biblical injunctions against gay sex mean that the civil law should be used against homosexuals in society. But what about the rest of the Bible - after all, there are other things condemned there as well.
Slacktivist writes:
The folks over on the religious right cite Leviticus as evidence that homosexuals are an unclean "abomination," yet they have no problem eating at Red Lobster. What gives?
In our fondness for Easter ham, we Christians have fervently clung to the surface-level meaning of Peter's vision. But we haven't been as enthusiastic about embracing the larger, more important lesson God was teaching him there on the rooftop. When the "unclean" outsiders knock on our doors, we don't like inviting them in. That, in a nutshell, is why some Christians happily dismiss one "abomination" while still behaving abominably out of allegiance to another.
(Oh, and what about Leviticus' Jubilee laws? Those were never set aside by anything in the New Testament, but Christians no longer treat them as authoritative because, um ... well, because money is pretty and shiny and let's us buy nice things.)
There’s a lot of debate among Christians — and it’s not a new debate — over how much of the Old Testament should be followed and how much can be ignored. Many complex theological arguments are offered for this or that position, but much of the time what I tend to see is: follow the laws we like and that reinforce our prejudices but ignore the ones that are difficult for personal, social, or political reasons.
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There is no such thing as “homosexual”. God created man and woman and preformed the first marriage in the garden. That’s all there is to it. Sticking a ***** in a hairy ******* – man or woman – is just plain wrong. You see, the ******* is used to **** with. That’s all there is to it.
“It’s just plain wrong, that’s all there is to it” is not an argument, it’s an unsupported assertion.
If that’s the best you can do, then you simply don’t have a case to make – you don’t have any arguments or reasons to offer for why gays shouldn’t be treated like everyone else.
I agree with the blogger about selectivity of Mosaic Law by Christians. It seems to me they like the ones that condemn people as classes (gays, witches, etc.) and ignore the ones about thing (e. g.,kashruth) and specific actions (e. g.,failing to bury your poop in a slit trench when you defecate in the middle of a battle).
I believe Judaism is a religion for obsessive compulsives (emphasis on laws governing actions, Christianity is one for schizophrenic (weird beliefs not supported by logic) and Islam is one for bipolars (absolutism marked by violence).
John you are a sad man and you are spreading your sadness. hopefully as atheists like you or better still buddhists are impotent we will soon be rid of guys like you once your generation dies 0ut.
Atheists and Buddhists are impotent and are going to die out in a generation? That will certainly come as a surprise to China.
Such Christian love (bigotry) I’ve seen before.
Some theists realize that homosexuality isn’t a “disease” that can be “cured.” Specifically, people who used to be “leaders” at Exodus, an organization that purports to “cure” gays via religion.
I send people to their Web site, Beyond Ex-Gay, every chance I get. I think it’s important that everyone be aware of the work they’re doing to try to make up for the harm they’ve done.
Check it out:
http://www.beyondexgay.com/article/apology
Hi guys.
I find it interesting on how we say that we are all against hate. But if we are against hate, why do we hate those we disagree with us? This comes from both sides. War begins in the heart, not on the battleground. If we truly want peace, then it’s time we begin loving those that hate us. We have nothing to lose if we love and everything to gain. You may not believe that Jesus is the King but I do. I respect your decision not follow Christ, but do you think that However, hating Christians is not going to help. Only forgiveness will set you free. I’ve been hurt too, but hate only leads to hate. And as far as any Christians reading this, please start acting like it. We are supposed to be salt and light, not stone throwers. I understand what sin is, but lets speak the truth in love shall we? If anyone wants to scream and yell at me, I welcome you with open arms. freedom_won4me@hotmail.com . God bless…….
Bigot christians are hypocrites, thats the problem. They use religion as an EXCUSE for their bigotry. They do not listten to the bible saying “do not eat shellfish” so why would they hate gays because of it? Its just an excuse because they are bigots themselves. They feel superior over gay people and try to get their things in the law. They are no better than racists.
Wow. Buddhists are impotent? I wonder where all those buddhists come from in Asia. Do aliens bring them down to earth? Does a stork leave babies on buddhists’ doorsteps?
My atheist sister recently had a baby. Is she secretly theist?
Isn’t interesting how the Christian (Mathew) spews such hate and ignorance and is proud to be a Christian. Somethings wrong. And it is…. Mathew says he’s a Christian but his actions are WRONG –full of hate—- and is not a disciple of Christ. He makes good non hating followers of Christ look bad–and he deserves a wake up call. I see this everyday in small town America—-closeminded-backwards–so caled Christians who use the Bible to spread hate. They ain’t Christians and they make the real Christains who follow Christs law; to love your enemy and to love — NOT HATE>!
I don’t know why Christians use the Bible as their source to be hate mongers. The Bible has been proven to be not true. Most Christians do not even know their own history and history speaks very loudly.
For starters there was no historical Jesus. There is no historical proof. Christians can not use the Bible because the Bible has proven to be false. There are over 2,000 errors in the New Testament alone and many more in the Old Testament.
Jesus was said to live during the Roman rule. They were a people that documented their history. There is no mention of a Jesus of Nazareth.
Another historical fallacy is that Jesus was in the town of Nazareth. The town of Nazareth wasn’t even around during the supposedly Jesus time.
I could go on and on and on. There is so much evidence out there that goes against the Christian supposedly historical Jesus.
Now to set this “author” straight on the parable he used above. The point of the parable is that God is saying, “All things I have created are clean” He is referring to animals BUT more importantly he is saying that the gentiles (me and you) are clean in his sight. No he is not saying that all gentiles will be saved. The point of the story is that they are worthy of the Gospel and that Peter should preach it to them.
Notice, if you will actually pick up the bible and read it. That Christ is saying in Acts that the Gentile world (again me and you) are not under the same yoke (law) of the Jewish people. Peter and the council at Jerusalem who were led by the Holy Spirit made new rules for all Gentile believers. These rules where, “You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell” This should answer your questions on why Christians don’t follow all the rules that where set down in the O.T. (Old Testament). Now if you notice here one of the very few rules that was stated is SEXUAL IMMORALITY, This word in Greek is pornaia which can in English mean a whole host of words. (Don’t believe me go do a word study in a Greek to English dictionary) this word can mean, adultery, fornication, porn, homosexuality. Thus this is why Christians think homosexuality is wrong.
If you believe this “author” then you really will hate Christians. We do not lay aside all the laws we do not like. Personally I’d love to steal, makes it a lot easier to get stuff. However I cannot. I’d love to screw any girl I want. However i cannot. I’d love to do everything that my mind could think of. However i cannot because of my faith.
Here’s one more old line of logic to chew on. ‘don’t hate the messenger hate the one who sent the messenger” It’s not really Christians you have a problem with. (Unless of course it’s a hypocrite, on which case he probably really isn’t a little Christ(( what Christian means))) What you do hate is the laws that were given from God. So effectively you hate God. Maybe that will help some people understand or maybe it won’t.
Your an idiot.
I’m a christian and I have a hard time believing ANY of the “rules” in the old testament came from God. Maybe some of it but I’m sure the MAN writing it threw in the thinking of the times laws and hang ups. Jesus never told anyone to condemn ANYONE. I think we should stick to the new testament. Jesus would embrace all people and I believe if he walked the earth today he would come to the defense of the gay community. Now, Promiscuity No, but that would go for straight or gay. Straight people, especially many “christian’s” are promiscuous before and during marriage. You can be a christian and still use common sense.
To “The Truth”:
So basically you’re saying without your Christian faith you would steal and screw any girl. What about morals? To quote you: “I’d love to do everything that my mind could think of. However i cannot because of my faith.”
I don’t have a faith and somehow I keep from stealing and doing everything in my mind. Keep your faith as it sounds like it keeps you out of trouble! You and all other christians need to understand that not everyone believes in God. Get over it!
I went to an evangelical Southern church before. There was no
discussion about the GLBT community whatsoever when I was there, only that
marriage was not able to be done.
It was a long time since I’ve been there but anti-minority
discussion never came up when I went.
I’ve personally only seen this trend in the last year, and not
with every church. Not with most of them infact…but there are a few really really bad churches.
It bowled me over when I realized there was such a thing as a bad church..but
now I know there is.
I haven’t lost my faith in God as I understand God, but my faith in humanity took a big hit.
I guess you can have good and bad people of any faith..but it sucks to see it.